You are listening to the Daily Roundup here as part of the Reality. Steve Podcast, I’m your host reality. Steve, thank you all for tuning in on this Monday. Yeah. We’re gonna be talking more Taylor, Frankie Paul stuff, because there’s so many more things that happened since Friday. Clips from past podcasts have gotten out.

Some of the men are speaking anonymously, off record, spewing out a bunch of stuff. They have no idea what they’re talking about. We’re gonna go over that. We’re gonna talk about contracts. We’re gonna talk about content creators coming out of the woodwork. There’s a lot here. And I would suspect for the next few weeks, this podcast, along with some lives that I do on YouTube are all gonna be centered around the Bachelorette being canceled, Taylor, Frankie Paul, and all that stuff.

So let’s get started. I wanna first jump on with this. I don’t know if anybody’s noticed, but with the media appearances that I’ve done in the last few days. TMZ last week. I’m sure that added to the fact, not to mention a lot of the. Instagram feed posts that I have getting a lot of views that added to the fact that more people are tuning into me now or more than before.

My numbers have absolutely gone up in the last week or so, but it also means that there are more people that are interested in seemingly coming to the Vegas party, which is the 10th annual fan appreciation party on June 13th. And so what I do wanna say is. If you’re interested in coming again, probably want to get in sooner rather than later because I’ve had a lot of people RSVP in the last probably five to seven days.

I’ve picked up, I think almost 20,000 Instagram followers in the last two weeks. And I’m not saying all these people that are signing up are all, you know, people that had never heard of me before. But it just seems like once those numbers started going up. More people started emailing me saying I’d like to come to the party.

So just keep that in mind. And all you gotta do is email me steve@realitysteve.com. I’ll send you my Venmo. It’s $40 per person. And again, if you’re flying in, just need your flight itinerary. If you’re driving in your hotel itinerary. And if you’re living in Las Vegas, just pay your 40 bucks and promise me you’re not gonna flake and put you on the list and you’ll be confirmed.

Saturday night, June 13th, inside Mandalay Bay at the House of Blues. There will be. Open beer and wine bar all night. There will be food, there will be a DJ spinning the nineties music. And by the way. It is official. I do need, I, I don’t think I’ll have a problem finding a dj, but if anybody knows a DJ or you are a DJ listening to this, would love to have you come and just know.

This isn’t, I would think a normal DJing gig. You don’t even have to bring your equipment. It’s provided by House of Blues. All you’re gonna have to do is play a playlist that I give you. So it’s nothing like you have to create, this is just something that is a Spotify playlist, and literally all you have to do is hit play and just make sure all the songs run together.

So, anybody who knows somebody who would be interested in doing this or is a DJ yourself. Contact me, we can work something out. But this is, I wouldn’t think a normal DJing gig where it’s like, Hey, I need a dj. You have to come up with a list, you have to bring all your equipment. This is a little bit easier, but if you’re coming from outta state I would be able to help out.

So anybody that knows anybody that would like to be a part of this, just let me know. All right, let’s get into the Taylor, Frankie Paul of it all. So, so much has happened since Friday and one of the audio clips that is making the rounds right now is a podcast that Taylor, Frankie Paul did after, this was back in 2023, and this was after she had the incident with Dakota.

That. Video got released last week, but you can see, I mean you can’t see it ’cause you’re listening right now. But in this video clip she is pregnant with ever. So this was 2023 and it was on the Cheers podcast with Avery Woods. And this is. And look, Taylor did numerous interviews of these, like she did, she went on and she did one with Nick and Natalie on the vial file.

She also did another one that, I can’t even remember the, the name of the podcast, but she basically said the same thing in all three. So I’m gonna play this one for you, and I just want you to listen to her describing the night that we all saw come out last week when the video was released.

And so it started with sadness.

I was crying to Dakota, like hysterically bawling that I was so sorry for everything I’ve done to not only him, but my ex, my life, everything. I was like hysterically bawling. I remember that. We get home and it turns to anger, like full on anger. Like I was a different person. Like, and I went crazy. I was throwing things.

And this was in your house with Dakota?

Yes. Okay. And so. I didn’t know my daughter was downstairs on the couch. They’re usually in their beds when I’m home. But we had a babysitter. I came home and she was on the couch and I was throwing stuff, and so I threw a chair at like towards him. And

At Dakota?

Yeah.

Okay.

And so I was charged with child abuse because like it could have hurt her. And so in the state of Utah, I don’t know other states if they have it, but it’s called reckless child abuse, meaning like if you. Throw something and it possibly did hit your kid or it hit your kid. That’s called Reckless child Abuse.

Who called the police?

Our neighbor.

Oh.

Because she thought I needed help. I was screaming so much, and so she’s like, I think she needs help over there, like, and he was trying to calm me down and I was just like throwing everything. I was so angry and I was like, I mean, as we all know, like I was trying to attack him and I assaulted him and.

I, I, I put it like, you know, I took it all out on him. And So

like you physically assaulted him?

Yeah. And I did get, like, I got charged with that.

So they came, investigated and then they took you to jail?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Because there was enough evidence there that I was like, the aggressor.

Damn.

Yeah. And I was like, I, I, yeah, I was.

And so they took me to jail. I like started to like sober up as soon as I got to jail. The worst part of it though is like. I was blacked out for so much of it that I, I can’t even like fess up to like everything I did. Like, I, I wouldn’t even be able to like, tell you what I did Exactly.

So the reason why I wanted to play that clip is because obviously there’s been a lot of stuff that has come out about that night and ever since the video came out.

And I think one of the biggest problems that I’m having with this is everything ma, everybody making it so black and white that you know. This is something where a child was involved, obviously, but everybody has to place a blame and it’s like it has to be one person and not the other. And if it can’t and it like can’t be both people, and this is what I’m saying, the term reactive abuse has become very, very popular in the last few days ever since this video came out.

And here’s the thing, two things can be true at the same time. That that was reactive abuse and what Taylor, Frankie Paul did was wrong, but people can’t seem to do that. The people that are screaming reactive abuse are saying, yeah, but look what he did. Look, I’m not saying what she did wasn’t reactive abuse to how he treated her, but that doesn’t make what she did, right?

That doesn’t make what she did not criminal. That’s the thing that a lot of people are having a problem understanding. Two things can be true here, but they want me to focus and they want a lot of people, the people that are screaming reactive abuse are wanting other people to focus on stuff that we don’t know about.

You know what I’m saying? We can’t see it so. Here’s the thing, and I’m just, and don’t take it outta context. Obviously aggregators will do whatever they do, but I’m making it very clear on this podcast right now. I’m just talking about that video, that three and a half minute video that was released. Not what happened before it.

Not what happened after it. You just heard Taylor, Frankie Paul. A couple months. I don’t know how many months after this incident took place that she did that podcast in that two minutes that I just played for you. I don’t know how long after it was that she did that, but for that particular incident that night, did that sound like somebody who was acting out of reactive abuse?

She literally almost defended, in fact, did Defend Dakota when she just spoke about it. At no point in that interview did she say anything about he did this, he instigated it. He led me to that point. Now again, please listen. There might’ve been other times in their relationship where he did. I’m, in fact, I’m pretty sure there probably was other times in their relationship where he did, but we’re just talking about that night and she just described it.

And if you want to go listen to her on Nick and Natalie’s podcast, she literally says the same exact thing. Back around that time, back in 2023, she did another podcast where she basically says the same thing. I was the aggressor. I turned my sadness into anger. Now, I know that there will still be people who come and say Yes, but that’s what someone who’s being abused does.

They make excuses for their abuser. And I’m not saying that doesn’t happen. In fact, we know it happens. We’ve seen the statistic, what is it, seven times, someone who’s being abused. We’ll try and leave their partner. It takes almost seven times on the average before they finally do, which means they do make excuses for them.

So I’m not disputing that either. I’m just talking about in this particular instance on that night where she did end up getting arrested when she gave a statement that night. Well, first off she says she was blacked out, so she can’t even remember what she did that night. But even months later when she’s doing this podcast and Nick and Natalie’s, she’s specifically saying nothing in there.

I, I can’t try and read her mind. I can’t try and put words. And make her say words that she never said. None of that statement and none of what she said on Nick and Natalie’s podcast put anything on Dakota for that particular night. So that’s what I wanna focus on. And people seem to wanna bring in all the other times that they were toxic and all the other times that he was the one that was the instigator and he was the one that got her to that breaking point.

I’m sure there was other times, but how can I talk about those when I don’t know. When they existed outside of this stuff that we see on Secret Lives, but we’re not talking about that. We’re talking about this particular instance, which is the reason why her show got pulled, and I’ll get to that in a second.

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